
Episode 71: Rockin’ the Boat at the PCAOB
FOGN Christina Ho joins the GovNavigators Show to talk about her role as a Board Member of the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (PCAOB), the many nicknames she has been given, and how she has made principled stands on policy in her role on the PCAOB.

Episode 70: Consulting the Oracle of Congress As August Recess Begins
The GovNavigators consult with the Oracle of Congress - Managing Partner and Founder of Brumidi Group Charles Cooper. Charles reviews the (small) progress made in Congress so far this year and previews the host of work left to do when it returns from the August recess. Oh - and he gives an (unpaid) shout out about how much he likes the GovNavigators!

Episode 69: Holding Congress Accountable with Washington Post Reporter Liz Goodwin
Washington Post report Liz Goodwin joins Robert and Adam to talk about her work shining a light on the U.S. Congress. Specifically Liz talks about her report opening up and analysing the data on a new House program allowing for reimbursement for living expenses while in Washington D.C. And she and Robert share their shared TX roots.

Episode 68: Hearding Cats: Running HR in the House of Representatives
John Salamone, Chief Human Resources Officer of the House of Representatives joins the GovNavigators Show to talk about bringing structure and resources to the 435+ offices of the U.S. House of Representatives. John shares how he fell into working in human resources and some of the exciting new programs and supports he is helping to create in the House.

Episode 67: The Best Dressed Man in Government Relations
The GovNavigators are joined this week by Tim Brennan, Vice President of Government Relations at the Professional Services Council (PSC). Robert and Adam grill Tim about dressing for the job you want, the levels of calcification of the federal bureaucracy, and the wide range of policy issues he is leading the charge on for PSC.

Episode 66: Can the Government Tell the Future?
Robin Champ and Suzette Brooks Masters from the Federal Foresight Advocacy Alliance join the GovNavigators Show to talk about the importance of utilizing strategic foresight in the federal government and their efforts to create a U.S. Office of Strategic Foresight.

Episode 65: Pop Up Episode: Happy Independence Day
Still recovering from Robert Shea's 15 minutes of fame on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, the GovNavigators take a break from guests this holiday week to reflect on major Supreme Court rulings and the state of stare decisis, two major birthdays, a wedding, and the beauty of fights for independence everywhere.

Episode 64: The State of Digital Identity 2024
Fascinating new data on the state of digital identity in government is out from the Center for Digital Government and #FOGN Jen Kerber (Senior Director for Government Affairs at Socure) and Dustin Haisler (President of e.Republic and the Center for Digital Government) join the show to talk about it.

Episode 63: Dustin Brown’s Impact Past and Future
Former OMB Executive Dustin Brown joins the GovNavigators Show to talk about his over two decades at OMB, serving for four different presidents, and why he left to help improve one of the most important federal agencies in the government - the Social Security Administration.

Episode 62: The GovNavigators Eat Some Crow
We are truly grateful that Natalie Alms joined the GovNavigators Show so we could apologize in person for our egregious mistake when we identified her employer. Everyone of course knows that Natalie still works at NextGov/FCW! Tune in to hear the latest government management stories and updates from Natalie's beat.

Episode 61: A Guide for Getting out of DoD's Management Quagmire
Defense Policy Luminary Peter Levine of the Defense Management Institute joins the GovNavigators Show to talk about his decades of work on Capitol Hill and in the belly of the beast attempting to reform and improve management practices at the Department of Defense.

Episode 60: Memorial Day Pop Up: Honoring Sacrifice and Vigilance
The GovNavigators skip a guest this week and record a shorter pop up episode to honor the sacrifices of those who have given their lives in defense of the United States. Robert and Adam also review some of their recent adventures and preview an upcoming guest.

Episode 59: Overcoming Fraud Risk Blindness
The GovNavigators get to the bottom of a standoff between OMB and GAO over the latest estimates of the size and scope of fraud in federal programs. Rebecca Shea at the GAO and FOGN Linda Miller, CEO of Audient Group join the GovNavigators to spill the tea about the latest in government fraud.

Episode 58: Capability at the Speed of Relevance: Modernizing the Defense Budgeting Process
Former Acting Secretary of the Army and Commissioner on the Planning, Programming, Budgeting, and Execution Reform Commission John Whitley joins the GovNavigators to talk about his career in government and the PPBE Commission's efforts to modernize the budgeting process at DoD to suit a more modern world.

Episode 57: Kicking Off Public Service Recognition Week with Max Stier
We're kicking off Public Sector Recognition Week with the one and only Max Stier of the Partnership for Public Service. Max shares about his lifetime struggle to find other humans named Max, the potential threats to an independent, professional civil service, and the compounding effect of honoring the best in government service.

Episode 56: Bringing Accountability to the (Real) Swamp!
The Chief Inspector General of the State of Florida Melinda Miguel joins the GovNavigators Show to talk about the importance of collaboration, bringing accountability to state government, and her award-winning work creating a cutting-edge training program for IG employees in Florida. She even stumps Robert and Adam with a government acronym!

Episode 55: A Budget Wonk’s Budget Wonk
Another #FOGN Doug Criscitello, Program Integrity Fellow at Arnold Ventures joins Adam and Robert on the GovNavigators Show to talk about a growing part of the federal government with big implication for almost every American: federal credit programs.

Episode 54: Small Office; Big Mission
Ever heard of the Office of Performance and Personnel Management (OPPM) at OMB? You have? Gold star for you!
OPPM is an unheralded office, but one that has grown in size, scope, and importance. And we can think of few (except perhaps Robert Shea) who are better suited to lead it than Loren Delong Schulman. Listen in to hear about her role as Associate Director of OPPM, the important initiatives her office is leading across government, and whether Robert will apply for the open Deputy position working for Loren.

Episode 53: Exciting Times for Data Nerds
#FOGN Nick Hart joins the GovNavigators Show and brings a friend - Natalie Evans Harris - the new Vice President for External Engagement at the Data Foundation. Nick and Natalie talk about the expanding work of the Data Foundation, AI, statistical policy directives 1-15, and much more. It's an exciting time to be a data #nerd in government.

Episode 52: The Many Shades of OPM
This week, the GovNavigators are graced by evidence-based policymaking royalty! The Founder and President of the Coalition for Evidence-Based Policy Jon Baron joins to talk about how far evidence-based policymaking has come and what remains to be done.