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Are we all clear on opsec? This week, Robert and Adam are getting (almost) all the details on how the latest technologies are rewriting the rules of national security. Shelby Pierson, retired national security official and the newest member of the GovNavigators Network, talks us through her longtime career spanning across the CIA, NRO, NGA, and ODNI, and unpacks the real work behind the romantic Hollywood version of the Intelligence Community. Now, as a consultant, she is bringing her unique expertise and skill set to organizations looking to revolutionize the important work done in supporting of our warfighter.

Show Notes:

• Allocore.com

• Federal News Network: VA's Cloud Security Memo 

• FedRAMP: 20X Initiative

• Federal News Network: OMB Revamps Cyber Event Logging Requirements (M-26-14)

• Supreme Court: Margolin v. National Association of Immigration Judges

• Washington Post: VP Vance's Op-Ed

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar

• August 9-12: DoDIIS 2026

• August 9-11: XChange August 2026

• August 20: Missions Made Possible Fed Tech Innovation Summit

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Lauren Lombardo, Policy Director for Recoding America, to discuss her work driving collaborative and coordinated government management policy reform. Lauren walks us through how working on campaigns at 13 years old sparked an early interest in public service, and describes her professional path working as a data scientist in the private sector before pivoting to use her technology background as a staffer in Congress. She dives into her work with the Recoding America fund, building connections with think tanks and individuals passionate about government management reform, developing the narrative surrounding these issues, and administering grants to organizations doing policy development and advocacy work in the government management sphere. Plus, learn why Lauren believes problems attributed to technology in government often stem much deeper, and why bipartisanism is necessary for real policy change.  

Show Notes 

Allocore: allocore.com 

New York Times: Accept Your Fate. Don’t Wear Shorts to the Office.  

Congress.gov: House C.R. 

The Hill: House passes reconciliation framework for Pentagon boost, voting restrictions 

House Armed Services Committee: FY27 NDAA Resources 

GSA: OneGov CORUS partnership 

FedScoop: VA won’t require existing FedRAMP certification for cloud contracts 

VA: FedRAMP memo 

Nextgov/FCW: After Hugging Face breach, FedRAMP chief tells slow-to-patch vendors to stay out of government 

Recoding America Fund: recodingamerica.org 

HSGAC: Testimony of Anthony Fauci 

C-SPAN: Dr. Anthony Fauci Testifies on Origins of COVID-19 Pandemic 

The Washington Post: Rand Paul threatens to hold Fauci in contempt after he declines to answer questions 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ Radar? 

August 4^th 

• TheXchange August Workshop on NASA's SEWP VI, Reston, VA 

August 5^th  

• HSGAC Business Meeting, Washington, D.C. 

August 5^th-6^th  

• The 14th Annual Border Security and Intelligence Summit, Washington, D.C. 

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome back Howard Mortman, Director of Communications at C-SPAN. Howard reveals what’s new with the network, the trends he’s been seeing, and how public affairs broadcasting has been changing. The episode dives into the role C-SPAN footage plays in spurring political conversation on social media, and the network’s new show aiming to bring tough policy questions and civil discourse that feeds solutions on air. Robert, Adam, and Howard also discuss C-SPAN programming, including America 250 festivities and a special initiative to send reporters to the field to augment 2026 campaign coverage. Plus, new developments on Howard’s podcast, Extreme Mortman, including an exciting name change, behind the scenes information on process, and the episodes he’s looking forward to the most. 

Show Notes 

House Appropriations: Continuing Resolution Press Release 

Time Magazine: House Passes $1.15 Trillion Defense Spending Bill 

House Armed Services Committee: FY27 NDAA Resources 

HHS: Press Release on Deferring California and Minnesota Medicaid Payments 

Reuters: US pauses $1 billion in Medicaid payments to California, Minnesota 

C-SPAN: C-SPAN Website 

C-SPAN: America 250 

C-SPAN: Campaign 2026 

The Hill: C-SPAN inks deal with YouTube TV, Hulu 

C-SPAN: Ceasefire 

C-SPAN: Extreme Mortman 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

July 28^th: 

• Digital Government Institute 14th Annual 930Gov Conference, Washington, D.C. 

July 30^th: 

• ATARC NextGen Cyber Operations: AI in Action Summit, Reston, VA 

• Potomac Officers Club 2026 Air and Space Summit, McLean, VA 

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Dana Fowler, member of the GovNavigators Network, to walk us through her career path and offer insights on government performance reform. Dana details her interesting start in the federal government as “basically a deckhand on a fishing boat,” before moving onto the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, the CDC, the Performance Improvement Council within GSA, and the Department of the Interior, in a performance management field she never expected to be a part of. The show raises the importance of leveraging data for decision-making, measuring the right things for the right reasons, and the value of an outside perspective. Plus, Dana gives us a peek into her new projects that work on government reform from the outside, using the knowledge she’s collected as a “practitioner” within. 

Show Notes: 

House Budget Committee: Press Release on Reconciliation 3.0 

The Hill: Key House committee advances framework for reconciliation 3.0 

Congress.gov: Budget Impoundment and Control Act of 1974 

The Washington Post: Wildfire smoke in DC 

FedRAMP: FedRAMP 20x 

DOW: Department of War Suspends CMMC Phase II Requirements 

Federal News Network: Pentagon suspends CMMC phase two requirements 

NOTUS: The Social Security Chief Keeps Sending Staff His Daughter’s Pretzels 

Performance.gov: GPRA 

IBM: IBM Center for the Business of Government 

We the Doers: We the Doers website 

House Oversight: Emerging Fraud Threats and the Evolving Fraud Landscape hearing 

IMDB: Movie reference 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

July 21-23^rd: 

• AGA Professional Development Training (PDT) 2026, Washington, DC 

July 21^st: 

• ACT-IAC Supply Chain Innovation Forum, Reston, VA 

July 23^rd: 

• GovForward’s 8^th Annual Carahsoft Summit on FedRAMP, Washington, DC 

This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Alex Snider, a former GSA and State Department official and author of the new book Sometimes You Should Be Late, to talk about what mindfulness has to do with government management. Alex walks through his career path in the Executive branch, and explains how recovering from a bike accident and the concussion that followed sent him toward meditation, therapy, and a new relationship with time. The conversation digs into the way breath is important to helping us live in the present, how bringing mindfulness into stakeholder meetings and performance reviews changes how public servants relate to one another, and why "sometimes you should be late" isn't an excuse for flakiness but a case for slowing down enough to notice the things that matter. Plus, Alex lets us in on the realities of a first-time author’s book launch, and how it further reinforced his idea that we should let go of the things we can’t control.  

Show Notes: 

• WSJ: Housing Bill Becomes Law Despite Trump Refusing to Sign It 

• Federal News Network: Federal CIO Barbaccia leaving in August 

• Federal News Network: DoT CIO Pidugu leaving 

• Federal News Network: Interior Department CIO is out after holding job for over a year 

• Government Executive: HUD's tech chief appears headed for Interior 

• The Hill: DOGE officially shuts down 

• Politico: Washington’s quantum reality check (White House quantum summit) 

• IBM Newsroom: Oak Ridge National Lab, Cleveland Clinic, and IBM Achieve First-Known Computations of Fusion Materials on a Quantum Computer 

• Alex Snider: Sometimes You Should Be Late (Book) 

• Alex Snider: Slow Mindfulness (Substack) 

• Alex Snider: slowmindfulness.com 

What's on the GovNavigators' Radar? 

July 14th: 

• Federal Student Loan Management Roundtable, Center for USA Lending, Washington, DC 

• Grants Management SIN Webinar, GSA 

July 15th: 

• Emerging Fraud Threats and the Evolving Fraud Landscape Hearing, Subcommittee on Government Operations, U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform 

• Exposing Fraud in America Hearing, Senate Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee 

July 16th: 

• GovExec Government Efficiency Summit, JW Marriott, Washington, DC 

This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Tyler Davey, CEO of ClearGov, to talk about how technology can finally make city budgets accessible to the people paying for them. The show digs into the problem with the traditional 300-to-500-page budget book, why context is the key to real citizen engagement, and how ClearGov's AI-powered chatbot and Engagement Studio turn complicated financial reports into community conversations. Tyler explains why government at the local level is what ends up impacting us the most, sharing a story of a case study where a new engagement platform encouraged input and surfaced citizen priorities. The episode also covers compliance and privacy considerations across state and local jurisdictions and why reaching the "silent majority" matters as much as responding to the loudest voices in the room. Plus, Robert and Adam share the latest updates on quantum, the Supreme Court, and FASAB. 

Show Notes: 

• White House: Ushering in the Next Frontier of Quantum Innovation (Executive Order) 

• White House: Securing the Nation Against Advanced Cryptographic Attacks (Executive Order) 

• OMB: Memorandum M-26-15, Execution of the Migration to Post-Quantum Cryptography 

• SCOTUS: Trump v. Slaughter 

• SCOTUSblog: Supreme Court Allows Trump to Fire FTC Commissioner, Overturns Humphrey's Executor 

• The Hill: Trump Cancels Housing Bill Signing Over Senate Inaction on SAVE Act 

• The Hill: House Republicans Vote to Block NDAA Rule Over SAVE America Act 

• Federal Register: Notice of Issuance of Staff Implementation Guidance 64.1 (FASAB MD&A Guidance) 

• ClearGov: Website 

• Businesswire: ClearGov Financial Engagement Platform Launch Announcement 

• ClearGov: Rochester Hills, Michigan Case Study 

What's on the GovNavigators' Radar? 

July 8th: 

• GSA FY26 Small Business Contracting Opportunities and Category Management Forum, National Industries for the Blind, Alexandria, VA 

July 16th: 

• GovExec Government Efficiency Summit, JW Marriott, Washington, DC 

July 21-23rd: 

• AGA Professional Development Training (PDT) 2026, Washington, DC  

On this Independence Day pop-up episode of the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam mark America's 250th birthday by surfacing some lesser-known milestones in the history of government management. From pre-Declaration government auditing, to a revolutionary-era grievance against King George that sounds surprisingly familiar to anyone who's worked in federal bureaucracy, to the creation of the Treasury Department in 1789, the roots of government management run deep. Plus, some recommendations from America’s Song Book and a shoutout to special 250th “best of” lists. Happy Independence Day! 

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam are joined by Maureen Klovers and April Harding, co-founders of We the Doers, who tackle the big question: How do we make government more efficient and effective? They discuss their project to measure success in government based on what matters to citizens and use that framework to see what changes make a difference. Maureen and April also describe their initiative to map out the convoluted employment termination process across agencies and usher in “Fast But Fair Firing.” The episode digs into the importance of data standardization, problem definition and implementation of reforms, and why biannual budgeting might be the key to fixing Congress. Together, they figure out how to, as Robert puts it, “Stop the crazy, restore sanity.” 

Show Notes: 

• NCHSA: Bipartisan Bicameral Housing Reform 

• DOL: Unemployment Insurance Fraud Prevention 

• Jen Pahlka: Recoding America Book 

• Senate Committee on Finance: The Unemployment Insurance Modernization and Recession Readiness Act 

• NOTUS: The Trump Administration Keeps Ghosting Its Congressional Watchdog 

• Gary Bass (Of the Gary Bass Rule of Three): Biography 

• We the Doers: wethedoers.org 

• POPVOX Foundation: Departure Dialogues Project 

• We the Doers: Workshop Report 

• DOL: Government Performance and Results Act (GPRA) 

What's on the GovNavigators' Radar? 

June 22nd: 

• National Academy of Public Administration Celebrating the American Public Servant Gala (GovNavigators sponsor) 

June 23-24th: 

• 2026 Senior Executive Leadership Summit 

June 24th: 

• Celonis Process Intelligence Day (GovNavigators sponsor) 

• GovExec SAP NOW 250 

This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Larry Allen, Associate Administrator for the GSA's Office of Government-wide Policy, now 15 months into the role. Larry brings a big update on the historic FAR overhaul, with the first four chapters expected to be out for public comment within the next two weeks. He describes the enthusiastic engagement from the acquisition workforce and shares what it will really take to relieve the burden on contracting professionals as agencies rebuild after staffing losses. The show digs into AI's growing role in acquisition, the administration's ambitious executive order agenda, and how the GSA has maintained its momentum through the transition to a permanent administrator. Larry also covers the complete overhaul of the Federal Property Management Regulations, a revamp of the Federal Travel Regulations, and drops some breaking per diem news for FY27. 

Show Notes: 

GSA Office of Government-wide Policy: OGP Overview 

GAO: The Nation's Fiscal Health Report 

Social Security Trustees: 2026 Annual Report Summary 

FISA Section 702: U.S. Intelligence FISA Section 202 Overview 

Financial Data Transparency Act: Final Rule Details 

FAR Overhaul: RFO 

DEI EO 2025: Ending Radical And Wasteful Government DEI Programs And Preferencing 

DEI EO 2026: Addressing DEI Discrimination by Federal Contractors  

Firm-Fixed Price Contracting EO: Promoting Efficiency, Accountability, and Performance in Federal Contracting  

GSA: Edward C. Forst Sworn in as GSA Administrator 

GSA: Federal Managment Regulation 

GSA: Federal Travel Regulation 

EO on Gold Standard Science: Restoring Gold Standard Science 

House Armed Services Committee: FY27 NDAA House Version 

What's on the GovNavigators' Radar? 

June 16^th: 

• VeeamOn Tour DC 2026 at Convene, Washington DC (Adam moderating) 

• Defense One Tech Summit, Arlington, Virginia 

June 22^nd: 

• National Academy of Public Administration Celebrating the American Public Servant Gala, Library of Congress (GovNavigators sponsor) 

June 23^rd: 

• ACT-IAC Insights to Action for Procurement Market Dynamics (Robert co-moderating) 

June 24^th: 

• Celonis Process Intelligence Day 

• GovExec SAP NOW 250 

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam are joined by Andrea Sampanis, Director of the Grants Quality Service Management Office (Grants QSMO) at HHS, and Stacie Massey, Deputy Director for Grants and Financial Reporting at the Office of Budget and Management for the state of Ohio. Andrea takes us on a deep dive into the new SIN launch for grants management services, walking us through what the new Special Item Number (SIN 518210GM) means for federal agencies and how cooperative purchasing opens it up to state, local, and tribal governments as well. Stacie brings the recipient side of the equation, sharing what it's actually like to manage $11 billion in grants across a patchwork of systems and agencies, and why this SIN changes the game. They also dig into the shift from compliance-heavy grants management to outcomes-focused oversight, the proposed Uniform Grants Regulation and what it means for the field, and why data standards are the foundation everything else is built on.

Show Notes:

• Federal News Network: Grants QSMO Shifting Approach to Meeting Market Demands

• OMB: Proposed Uniform Grants Regulation (UGR) — Comments Due July 13, 2026

• OPM: Policy Career (formerly Schedule F)

• Policy/Career Executive Order: Implementing Schedule Policy/Career in the Excepted Service

• AI Executive Order: Promoting Advanced Artificial Intelligence Innovation and Security

What's on the GovNavigator's Radar?

• June 10–11th: Government Service Delivery 2026 Conference

• June 11th: GovExec 35th Annual Government Procurement Conference

• July 21–23rd: AGA Professional Development Training (PDT) 

This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome back Charles Cooper, Managing Director at Brumidi Group and GovNavigators' resident oracle of all things Capitol Hill. With six months until the midterms and a staggering legislative to-do list full of reconciliation, the farm bill, the surface transportation bill, 12 appropriations bills, the NDAA, FISA, and more, Charles breaks down why Congress is already fracturing along election-year fault lines. He explains why the White House and rank-and-file members are increasingly operating on different frequencies, makes his signature bold prediction on a government shutdown, and offers a candid look at what savvy clients are doing right now to position themselves for the lame duck and beyond. He also weighs in on the bipartisan fraud prevention push out of House Oversight and whether momentum can survive the politics. As always, the oracle has spoken.

Show Notes:

House Oversight Committee: Markup Sweeping Legislation to Stop Fraud in Federal Programs

OPM: Draft Rule Eliminating Time-in-Grade Requirement

OMB: Cybersecurity Incident Logging Update

NDAA: House Armed Services Committee Markup

What's on the GovNavigator's Radar?

June 3rd: 

• House Oversight Committee Hearing on Medicaid Fraud 

June 5th:

•  Data Foundation 2026 Data Summit 

June 10-11th:

• Government Service Delivery 2026 Conference 

June 11th:

• GovExec 35th Annual Government Procurement Conference 

June 16th:

• VeeamOn Tour DC 2026

In this Memorial Day pop-up episode of the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam break down a week of Washington false starts and delayed announcements, namely the Senate’s stalled reconciliation push and the White House pulling the plug on a major AI EO signing at the last minute. They also spotlight a new HHS fraud oversight initiative aimed at tightening grant accountability using AI-powered audit review. Plus, a reminder of the real meaning behind Memorial Day as the hosts honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice.

This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam are joined by Robbie Holmes, founder and CEO of Holmes Consulting Group and member of the GovNavigators Network, for a wide-ranging and deeply personal conversation on technology, government modernization, and what it really takes to build systems that serve people. Robbie traces a remarkable career arc, from the New York City welfare system and Sony Music to Zagat Survey, Google, USDS, and local government, and draws from each stop to make the case for pragmatic, constituent-centered technology. He reflects on his evolution from AI skeptic to cautious optimist, explains why so many well-intentioned government systems have created more friction than they've solved, and makes a compelling argument for why identity infrastructure and unified case management should be the government's next big bets. 

Show Notes:

• CMS: Nationwide Moratorium on Hospice and Home Health Agency Enrollment

• GAO: 2026 Annual Report on Fragmentation, Overlap, and Duplication

• House Oversight Committee: Markup on Legislation to Stop Fraud in Federal Programs

• Federal News Network: House Committee Advances 9 Anti-Fraud Bills

• NPR: Senate Votes to Kickstart Reconciliation to Fund ICE and CBP

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar:

• May 20th: GovCIO Federal IT Efficiency Summit at Carahsoft 

• May 21st: PSC FedHealth Conference

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Adam and Robert sit down with Daniel Gaush, Acting Director of the International Cooperative Administrative Support Services Service Center at the U.S. Department of State, for a fascinating look at one of the federal government’s largest and least understood shared services operations.

Daniel explains how the ICASS system coordinates administrative support for more than 300 federal entities across embassies and consulates worldwide, everything from HR and motor pools to security, facilities, and logistics. He shares stories from a 24-year career spanning Morocco, China, Afghanistan, and Washington, including negotiating trade agreements, touring a Chinese nuclear reactor, and managing support operations in wartime environments.

The conversation explores the promise and pain points of shared services: balancing costs, managing interagency consensus, handling global crises, and adapting to major structural changes, such as the integration of USAID functions into the State Department. Daniel also reflects on the unique culture of the Foreign Service and offers advice for the next generation of Americans considering international public service careers.

Show Notes:

• Final Report from The President’s Council to Assess the Federal
  Emergency Management Agency

What's on the GovNavigators' Radar?

• May 13: House Oversight & Government Reform Committee Hearing: DoW Financial Management: Examining Progress and New Audit Approaches 

• May 14: House Oversight & Government Reform Hearing: Reducing America’s National Debt: Rooting Out Federal Waste, Fraud, and Overregulation 

• May 14-15: ACT-IAC’s Emerging Technology & Innovation Summit

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Adam and Robert sit down with the GovNavigator Network's Josh Martin, former Chief Data Officer for the State of Indiana turned founder and AI practitioner, for a candid, highly practical conversation about what AI can (and can't!) do in government today.

Josh shares how he’s building AI-powered tools to solve real-world problems, like instantly preparing for vendor meetings or streamlining procurement reviews, and explains why AI’s biggest value isn’t replacing people, but accelerating decision-making. He also offers a clear-eyed warning: agencies that over-automate without human oversight risk serious errors, hallucinations, and reputational damage.

We dive into how governments can responsibly adopt AI, the importance of understanding data and prompting, and why “personal responsibility” is the missing ingredient in most AI strategies. Josh also reflects on his transition out of government, what he misses, and where he sees the biggest opportunities for innovation across the public sector.

Show Notes:

• Partial DHS funding measure passed

• House Oversight advances nine anti-fraud bills

• DoW strikes new AI deal with major companies

• New EO pushing fixed-price contracting

What's on the GovNavigators' Radar?

• May 2-4: Professional Services Council Annual Conference

• May 5: AGA’s Performance Counts Summit

• May 6: Service to America Medals

• May 14-15: ACT-IAC’s Emerging Technology & Innovation Summit

This week on the GovNavigators Show, hosts Adam and Robert sit down with Dr. Amanda Cash of the Data Foundation and Dr. Adita Karkera of Deloitte to unpack the latest Federal Chief Data Officer (CDO) Survey and what it reveals about the state of data, AI, and capacity across government.

Drawing on six years of survey data, Amanda and Adita explain how the federal CDO role has evolved since the Foundations for Evidence-Based Policymaking Act and why today’s environment may be the most challenging yet. With more than half of CDOs operating with five or fewer staff, agencies are being pushed to do more with less, even as expectations around AI, data governance, and transparency continue to rise.

The conversation explores the growing overlap between Chief Data Officers and Chief AI Officers, the risks and opportunities of combining those roles, and how agencies can use AI to compensate for workforce gaps. They also highlight the critical role of the federal CDO Council in enabling collaboration and scaling best practices across government.

This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam are joined by Drew Friedman, reporter at Federal News Network and nominee for the ECHO Award for Best Government Management Journalist. Drew pulls back the curtain on what it's like to cover the federal workforce in one of the most turbulent periods in recent memory.

The conversation covers the shifting landscape of federal hiring, including OPM's push toward skills-based hiring in the IT space, the latest on Schedule F's successor, and the growing body of litigation challenging the administration's workforce actions, as well as budget issues, and the administration's push to shrink the federal real estate footprint. Drew also reflects on what it takes to keep up with stories this big, and why the Federal News Network team's collaborative approach has been essential to staying on top of it all.

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Adam and Robert sit down with GovNavigators Network member Jason Robertson, former regional CFO and senior leader at the U.S. Forest Service, for a conversation on what happens when government systems face real disruption.

Jason shares insights from his two decades in federal service, including managing wildfire funding, overseeing recreation and land use across multiple states, and navigating the complex financial realities of public land management. He breaks down how wildfire policy, procurement, and interagency coordination are evolving, and why looming fire risks and structural changes are colliding in real time.

Now in the private sector, Jason offers a candid view into the massive workforce and knowledge gaps emerging across agencies, and the opportunities those gaps create for new models of support, consulting, and innovation. From shifting procurement pathways to rethinking how agencies deliver on their missions, we explore how disruption is reshaping the federal landscape.

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam sit down with Max Spitzer, former Assistant Parliamentarian in the U.S. House of Representatives, for a behind-the-scenes look at one of the most misunderstood offices in Congress. Max explains how the House Parliamentarian keeps the chamber running day to day, from advising the presiding officer in real time to shaping precedent that governs how legislation moves. He shares stories from the House floor, including high-pressure moments during the 2008 financial crisis!

The conversation also dives into the mechanics of power in the House: how rules actually work, why the Rules Committee can override almost anything, and what would happen if control of the House flipped mid-Congress. Max also offers a candid take on congressional dysfunction, and why fixing the rules, not just the Speaker, may be the key to reform.

Show Notes:

• OMB's FY27 budget proposal

• OMB's new memo requiring IT spending data

• GAO's emerging tech risks

• Federal buildings fail to reach occupancy benchmark

What's on the GovNavigators' Horizon:

• Apr 7: Federal Cybersecurity Executive Summit (GovExec, Optiv, ClearShark, Carasoft)

• Apr 8: ACT-IAC Contact Center Summit

• Apr 13–14: AGA DC Chapter Spring Meeting

• Apr 15: Carasoft's AI-Powered Government Solutions Event

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Adam and Robert sit down with Ryan Hoesing, Chief of Staff for FedRAMP, and Nicole Thompson, Security Director, for a deep dive into one of the most consequential federal IT programs undergoing transformation today.

Ryan and Nicole walk through the sweeping changes to the FedRAMP program and explain what the new “FedRAMP 20x” approach means for agencies and industry. They unpack the shift from authorization to certification, the move toward continuous and machine-readable security data, and why redefining FedRAMP’s role is critical to making cloud adoption actually work across government.

Show Notes:

• Continued DHS appropriations uncertainty

• Launch of VP Vance's anti-fraud taskforce

• New DEI EO

What's on the GovNavigators' Radar:

• Mar 31: Oracle Federal Forum

• Apr 8: ACT-IAC Contact Center Summit