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Episode 183: Election Recap with GovNavigators 

Blue wave? Tsunami? To quote Governor DeSantis, an “extinction level event for Republicans?” Whatever you call it, Robert and Adam come together this week to unpack a historic midterm election that saw the Democrats take control of both the House and Senate. Our hosts walk us through the election results, the policy implications for government management, and their predictions for the future. Plus, speculations on the upcoming lame duck session of Congress.  

Special thanks to Allocore for sponsoring. 

Show Notes 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ Radar? 

November 11th 

  • Veterans Day 

November 12th  

November 13th  

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Episode 182: Is HHS Spending Better? Gus Chiarello on Using Audit Data to Stop Fraud

How can we be better stewards of taxpayer dollars? This week, Robert and Adam unpack this question with Gus Chiarello, Assistant Secretary for Financial Resources and CFO at HHS as he details his initiative to use information from the Single Audit Act to prevent improper payments and save taxpayer funds. Plus, a case study in Arizona and an inside look into technology’s role in reform.  

Thank you Allocore for sponsoring! 

Show Notes: 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

November 3 

  • Election day 

November 6 

November 8 

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Episode 181: The Power of Your Network With Cindy Morgan

This week, Cindy Morgan, member of the GovNavigators Network and President of C.O. Morgan LLC, takes Robert and Adam through her past work in federal acquisitions, the need for agency access to technology, and the value of cultivating your professional network. Plus, whether Cindy would ever consider making the return to government. 

Thank you to Allocore for sponsoring! 

Show Notes 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

October 27th  

October 29th  

October 30th  

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Episode 180: Coaching Civil Servants with Rai Moyers

Put me in, coach! This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam bring in Rai Moyers, Director of Coaching at Former Gov, to discuss her work setting former federal workers up for success as they figure out what’s next. From her roots as a park ranger with the Forest Service, to her exit from government, to her coaching practices, Rai details her human-centered approach to helping people discover themselves as “the person behind the mission.”  Plus, the power of community for public service professionals.  

Thank you to our friends at Allocore for sponsoring this episode! 

Show Notes 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

October 17th-21st  

October 20th 

October 21st  

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Episode 179: Pop-Up Episode: October Federal Holiday

Hope everyone’s enjoying a well-deserved day off! On this pop-up episode of the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam run through the news and events of last week, recapping an exciting conference on federal lending and discussing new compliance guidance from OMB.  Plus, some presidential action on SI (we got the new name straight eventually).  

Special thanks to Allocore for sponsoring! 

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Episode 178: Welcome to the Peterman Era: Introducing AGA’s New CEO 

Drumroll, please! This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam sit down with Mary Peterman, the newly hired CEO of AGA. Learn about Mary’s longstanding involvement in the organization, her view on the role AGA should play in public policy issues, and her thoughts on the impact of AI in government financial management. Plus, how AGA is here to help you adjust to an evolving federal landscape and the rapid technological transformation sweeping the field.  

Thank you Allocore for sponsoring this episode! 

Show Notes 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

October 8th  

October 12th-14th  

October 14th-15th  

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Episode 177: Got Midterms Anxiety? The Oracle has Answers!

The oracle is back, and he's not holding back. This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome the return of Charles Cooper, Founder and Managing Partner at Brumidi Group, for a deep dive into the state of play on Capitol Hill with just weeks to go before the midterms. Will there be a government shutdown? What does a lame duck Congress actually get done? And is divided government secretly good? Charles breaks it all down with the kind of context only a seasoned congressional insider can provide, from redistricting math to the seats nobody's watching... yet.

Thank you to Allocore for sponsoring this episode.

Show Notes:

Source: GSA, HHS Uncover $1.2 Billion in Suspected COVID-Related Contract Fraud

Source: Trump Administration to Remove 760,000 ACA Enrollees Over Fraud Claims

Source: OPM Gives Agencies Authority to Give Bonuses Up to $25,000

Source: Public Trust in Government Falls to 27% — Partnership for Public Service

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar:

September 27th – 30th: NASCIO 2026 Annual Conference, San Diego

October 8th: MeriTalk Tech Tonic

October 19th: FAR Revolutionary Overhaul Public Comment Deadline

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Episode 176: Nick Hart Values Public Data and You Should Too

Who knew Jaws could come up in a conversation on data? This week, Robert and Adam sit down with Nick Hart, President and CEO of the Data Foundation to debrief their GovDATAx conference and discuss the many factors at play in the national data ecosystem. Learn what progress Nick believes has been made in the federal data sphere and hear what he thinks is still left to be done. Plus, insights on the challenges of balancing representation and data privacy, and how data is the key to fighting fraud.  

Thank you Allocore for sponsoring! 

Show Notes 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

September 21st – 25th  

September 22nd  

September 22nd and 23rd 

September 25th  

  • POGO and Arnold Ventures's Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act 20th Anniversary Celebration 

September 30th 

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Episode 175: Unpacking OGR with Christian Hoehner: The Deep-Dive on Preventing Fraud 

From inside the House, it’s Christian Hoehner!  

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome their good friend Christian Hoehner, Policy Director for the Majority staff at the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Christian walks us through the committee’s expansive work, including their new legislation addressing the “dire problem” of fraud and improper payments. Plus, an inside look at the Prepayment Fraud Prevention and Treasury Data Access Act, and the payoff of bipartisan cooperation. 

Special thanks to our friends at Allocore for sponsoring this episode! 

Show Notes 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

September 14th 

  • Socure Fraud Briefing on Capitol Hill 

September 15th  

  • The Data Foundation’s govDATAx, George Washington University 

National Academy of Public Administration (NAPA) Lunch for John Bernard, America’s Pulse 

Senator Lankford and Senator Hassan’s Roundtable on Executive-Legislative Relations 

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Episode 174: Pop-Up Episode: Labor Day Special 

Happy Labor Day!  

On this pop-up episode, Robert and Adam wish a happy holiday to all, with a special shoutout to our federal workforce. Plus, some quick updates from Congress and upcoming events to tie you over through the long weekend. 

Show Notes: 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

September 9th  

September 15th  

  • The Data Foundation’s govDATAx Conference, George Washington University 

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Episode 173: Advancing Audit with Christina Ho 

Christina Ho knows some people would describe audit as “painful,” so what if there was a way to make it “faster, better, and cheaper?” 

In this episode, Robert and Adam sit down with Christina Ho, former PCAOB Board Member and Chief Assurance Officer at Oath to discuss her new project using AI to improve the auditing process by testing 100% of transactions. Plus, learn about her vision for a “whole new category” of independent verification, and how the current view of audit as a compliance exercise is not producing the value it is intended to. 

Thanks to our sponsors at Allocore! 

Show Notes: 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

August 31st  

September 9th  

September 14th  

September 15th  

  • The Data Foundation’s govDATAx, George Washington University 

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Episode 172: Breaking Down the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act with the National Apartment Association

Congress passed a major bipartisan housing bill, and Robert has three daughters renting apartments, so this one is personal. This week, Robert and Adam are joined by Nicole Upano, AVP of Housing Policy and Regulatory Affairs, and George Ratiu, VP of Research, both at the National Apartment Association, to unpack what the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act does for Americans everywhere, and what comes next. From single-stairway buildings and inspection parity to opportunity zone updates, manufactured housing reform, and the role of private capital, they walk through a once-in-a-generation piece of legislation, and what implementation looks like across Treasury, HUD, FHFA, USDA, and beyond. They also flag what didn't make it in, and why the real work is just beginning.

Thank you to Allocore for sponsoring this episode.

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Episode 171: John Bernard Takes America’s Pulse: Building a Direct Line Between Citizens and Their Elected Officials 

Special thanks to Allocore for supporting this episode. 

Ensuring politicians remain accountable to those who vote for them is no easy feat, but our guest this episode may have the solution. On this episode of the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam try not to have too much fun talking with John Bernard, Founder, President, and CEO of America’s Pulse, as he takes us through his project to measure state performance and connect citizens’ priorities directly to their elected officials. Plus, learn how America’s Pulse is building a direct-input democracy that extends beyond elections, and how you can use it to make your voice heard. 

Show Notes 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar?  

August 20th  

August 24th  

August 26th-27th  

August 27th  

August 27th  

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Episode 170: Shelby Pierson Lifts the Veil: An Unclassified Chat About the Tech Powering National Security

Thank you to Allocore for supporting this week's episode of the GovNavigators Show.

Are we all clear on opsec? This week, Robert and Adam are getting (almost) all the details on how the latest technologies are rewriting the rules of national security. Shelby Pierson, retired national security official and the newest member of the GovNavigators Network, talks us through her longtime career spanning across the CIA, NRO, NGA, and ODNI, and unpacks the real work behind the romantic Hollywood version of the Intelligence Community. Now, as a consultant, she is bringing her unique expertise and skill set to organizations looking to revolutionize the important work done in supporting of our warfighter.

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Episode 169: Lauren Lombardo Recodes America

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Lauren Lombardo, Policy Director for Recoding America, to discuss her work driving collaborative and coordinated government management policy reform. Lauren walks us through how working on campaigns at 13 years old sparked an early interest in public service, and describes her professional path working as a data scientist in the private sector before pivoting to use her technology background as a staffer in Congress. She dives into her work with the Recoding America fund, building connections with think tanks and individuals passionate about government management reform, developing the narrative surrounding these issues, and administering grants to organizations doing policy development and advocacy work in the government management sphere. Plus, learn why Lauren believes problems attributed to technology in government often stem much deeper, and why bipartisanism is necessary for real policy change.  

Show Notes 

Allocore: allocore.com 

New York Times: Accept Your Fate. Don’t Wear Shorts to the Office.  

Congress.gov: House C.R. 

The Hill: House passes reconciliation framework for Pentagon boost, voting restrictions 

House Armed Services Committee: FY27 NDAA Resources 

GSA: OneGov CORUS partnership 

FedScoop: VA won’t require existing FedRAMP certification for cloud contracts 

VA: FedRAMP memo 

Nextgov/FCW: After Hugging Face breach, FedRAMP chief tells slow-to-patch vendors to stay out of government 

Recoding America Fund: recodingamerica.org 

HSGAC: Testimony of Anthony Fauci 

C-SPAN: Dr. Anthony Fauci Testifies on Origins of COVID-19 Pandemic 

The Washington Post: Rand Paul threatens to hold Fauci in contempt after he declines to answer questions 

 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ Radar? 

August 4th 

August 5th  

August 5th-6th  

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Episode 168: The “Extreme Mortman” is Back! Howard Mortman Shares What’s New With C-SPAN 

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome back Howard Mortman, Director of Communications at C-SPAN. Howard reveals what’s new with the network, the trends he’s been seeing, and how public affairs broadcasting has been changing. The episode dives into the role C-SPAN footage plays in spurring political conversation on social media, and the network’s new show aiming to bring tough policy questions and civil discourse that feeds solutions on air. Robert, Adam, and Howard also discuss C-SPAN programming, including America 250 festivities and a special initiative to send reporters to the field to augment 2026 campaign coverage. Plus, new developments on Howard’s podcast, Extreme Mortman, including an exciting name change, behind the scenes information on process, and the episodes he’s looking forward to the most. 

Show Notes 

House Appropriations: Continuing Resolution Press Release 

Time Magazine: House Passes $1.15 Trillion Defense Spending Bill 

House Armed Services Committee: FY27 NDAA Resources 

HHS: Press Release on Deferring California and Minnesota Medicaid Payments 

Reuters: US pauses $1 billion in Medicaid payments to California, Minnesota 

C-SPAN: C-SPAN Website 

C-SPAN: America 250 

C-SPAN: Campaign 2026 

The Hill: C-SPAN inks deal with YouTube TV, Hulu 

C-SPAN: Ceasefire 

C-SPAN: Extreme Mortman 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

July 28th: 

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Episode 167: Improving Performance with Dana Fowler 

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Dana Fowler, member of the GovNavigators Network, to walk us through her career path and offer insights on government performance reform. Dana details her interesting start in the federal government as “basically a deckhand on a fishing boat,” before moving onto the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, the CDC, the Performance Improvement Council within GSA, and the Department of the Interior, in a performance management field she never expected to be a part of. The show raises the importance of leveraging data for decision-making, measuring the right things for the right reasons, and the value of an outside perspective. Plus, Dana gives us a peek into her new projects that work on government reform from the outside, using the knowledge she’s collected as a “practitioner” within. 

Show Notes: 

House Budget Committee: Press Release on Reconciliation 3.0 

The Hill: Key House committee advances framework for reconciliation 3.0 

Congress.gov: Budget Impoundment and Control Act of 1974 

The Washington Post: Wildfire smoke in DC 

FedRAMP: FedRAMP 20x 

DOW: Department of War Suspends CMMC Phase II Requirements 

Federal News Network: Pentagon suspends CMMC phase two requirements 

NOTUS: The Social Security Chief Keeps Sending Staff His Daughter’s Pretzels 

Performance.gov: GPRA 

IBM: IBM Center for the Business of Government 

We the Doers: We the Doers website 

House Oversight: Emerging Fraud Threats and the Evolving Fraud Landscape hearing 

IMDB: Movie reference 

What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 

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July 21st: 

July 23rd: 

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Episode 166: “Sometimes You Should Be Late”: Alex Snider on His New Book and Slowing Down in Government 

This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Alex Snider, a former GSA and State Department official and author of the new book Sometimes You Should Be Late, to talk about what mindfulness has to do with government management. Alex walks through his career path in the Executive branch, and explains how recovering from a bike accident and the concussion that followed sent him toward meditation, therapy, and a new relationship with time. The conversation digs into the way breath is important to helping us live in the present, how bringing mindfulness into stakeholder meetings and performance reviews changes how public servants relate to one another, and why "sometimes you should be late" isn't an excuse for flakiness but a case for slowing down enough to notice the things that matter. Plus, Alex lets us in on the realities of a first-time author’s book launch, and how it further reinforced his idea that we should let go of the things we can’t control.  

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What's on the GovNavigators' Radar? 

July 14th: 

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July 16th: 

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Episode 165: Where Do My Taxes Go? Tyler Davey Can Help You Understand Your City’s Budget 

This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Tyler Davey, CEO of ClearGov, to talk about how technology can finally make city budgets accessible to the people paying for them. The show digs into the problem with the traditional 300-to-500-page budget book, why context is the key to real citizen engagement, and how ClearGov's AI-powered chatbot and Engagement Studio turn complicated financial reports into community conversations. Tyler explains why government at the local level is what ends up impacting us the most, sharing a story of a case study where a new engagement platform encouraged input and surfaced citizen priorities. The episode also covers compliance and privacy considerations across state and local jurisdictions and why reaching the "silent majority" matters as much as responding to the loudest voices in the room. Plus, Robert and Adam share the latest updates on quantum, the Supreme Court, and FASAB. 

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What's on the GovNavigators' Radar? 

July 8th: 

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July 21-23rd: 

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Episode 164: Pop-Up Episode: Celebrating America's 250th Birthday

On this Independence Day pop-up episode of the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam mark America's 250th birthday by surfacing some lesser-known milestones in the history of government management. From pre-Declaration government auditing, to a revolutionary-era grievance against King George that sounds surprisingly familiar to anyone who's worked in federal bureaucracy, to the creation of the Treasury Department in 1789, the roots of government management run deep. Plus, some recommendations from America’s Song Book and a shoutout to special 250th “best of” lists. Happy Independence Day! 

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